There was a long moment where Niles listened and wondered all along exactly what the appeal would be to having some of the abilities of a spider, but quickly dismissed it for more fertile ground.

"I can't even begin to think how to approach that," Niles said frankly, but clearly he was fascinated. So much so, he stood from the seat next to Dean and moved to the one in front and off to one side of him for a less-than-optimal conversational seating area. He turned awkwardly and talked over the back of his chair.

He repeats slowly: "Bob Seger book." Niles felt he needed to understand this reference to know what Dean meant about identity.